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  I can't do it anymore.

  by Gadget in

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  people who've been reading my posts will know i've been trying to get reinstated so i can get back together with my girlfriend/fiance.

  the more time goes on, the less i feel able to do that.

  all the things i hear from the platform, and the things that elders have said to me just reinforce the fact that i want nothing at all to do with this organisation anymore.

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  Gadget, jeez I'm so sorry for what you're going through. She sounds bloody awful. To say that she prefers if you'd cheated on her, how sick is that? That you're worse than her ex who beat and raped her - what the hell? I mean her thinking is totally warped. She's gonna kill herself - how unstable is this woman? Then to call all your friends and try to control you through them by getting them to pressure you and bully you into returning to that crazy religion? I want to know where did her love go? How can she claim to love you one day then do this to you the next? I think you dodged a bullet, she doesn't need a husband, she needs a therapist. You're going to find a woman who will offer you unconditional love and bring peace to your life. And if the business partners bail on you due to your beliefs, yeah, sue 'em, fight for what's yours. Please keep us updated so that we know how you're doing. - V Sky
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  Do you regret ever getting baptized

  by ikhandi in

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  thousand of witnesses do it every year and for what they believe are good reasons.

  i did it because i was pressured by elders.

  its interesting to note how elders can target young people into committing their life to something they really know nothing about.

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  I've never regretted anything more. I got baptized at 16, nobody pressured me, I believed everything I was taught. Now my choice makes leaving more complicated due to family ties. You know it's funny, the thought that I was breaking my vow to God kept me in for 2 more years. I had never made a vow before and I wanted to be a person of my word. Now, I know that I didn't break away from God. I broke away from a control freak, blood guilty organization and I'll never regret that. - V Sky
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  The Invisible 'Ones'

  by uriah in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had an insight the other day, you know the type of thing - you walk past something everyday and suddenly you become aware of it.. well, many on this board probably have come to the same conclusion so if i am repeating it - sorry.

  what is it i hear you shout.

  ok.. in my experience, i hardly saw any jw's except at meetings or meetings for fm.

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  Interesting Uriah, I haven't been ignored by anyone I knew but I've been given that look. The 'why the hell do you look happy/good/at peace look?' It is such a lie the society tells, that non dubs are miserable when it's the other way around. Some of my friends can't figure me out. They think I've got a man hiding under my bed or I'm popping happy pills. What they don't understand is that anyone who is truly free has a lot to smile about. - V Sky
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  If you could use a voodoo doll to hurt anyone you chose, would you?

  by Happythoughts in

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  be honest

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  Osama Bin Laden and any creep who hurts a kid. - V Sky
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  "Cognitive Dissonance Revisited" or "Old Habits Die Hard" - Friendly Advice

  by Utopian Reformist in

  1. social
  2. current

  many of us were once fervent supporters and active members of the wtbs through our local congregations.

  when confronted with controversial information while under the influence of the organization, many of us were instantly defensive, dismissive, skeptical and fearful.

  we chose to continue believing the leadership knew better than we did and had our best interests at heart, despite any logic, or lack of reason.

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  Sorry, the post I quoted wasn't from Simon, don't know who said it but it's true.
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  "Cognitive Dissonance Revisited" or "Old Habits Die Hard" - Friendly Advice

  by Utopian Reformist in

  1. social
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  many of us were once fervent supporters and active members of the wtbs through our local congregations.

  when confronted with controversial information while under the influence of the organization, many of us were instantly defensive, dismissive, skeptical and fearful.

  we chose to continue believing the leadership knew better than we did and had our best interests at heart, despite any logic, or lack of reason.

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  Utopian you make some interesting points but I'm with Panda. I vote because I have the freedom to. I haven't transfered my faith in a crazy religion to any government. I believe that the horrific events of 9/11 justified a response, call it vengence or anything else you want but hell yes, a response by the government was totally appropriate. Maybe you missed this post but Simon mentioned that 9/11 wasn't just an attack on America, that 80 other countries lost citizens. And just because my blinders are off to the WTS doesn't mean I'm going to turn into a philosopher and sit back and question everything to death or bash what other people may feel strongly about, even if I disagree. I don't swallow everything I hear or see either. Balance is a good thing - V Sky
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  In Your Opinion: Who Was The Greatest Person That Ever Lived?

  by minimus in

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  my answer: jesus christ.....yours??

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  Among imperfect humans? The Underground Railroad conductor and Union Army Scout, Harriet Tubman - had more courage than many men combined. Love her. - V SKy
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  Interesting quotes about belief in God

  by cruzanheart in

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  i'm reading dan brown's book "angels & demons," which is kind of a prequel to "the davinci code," and i'd like to see what you all think of these quotes:.

  "i did not ask if you believe what man says about god.

  i asked if you believed in god.

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  Nina, I couldn't agree more. I'm on page 97 of Angels and Demons and I agree, with the way Brown puts it. I consider myself a spiritual person, rather than a religious one. I don't like the concept that God will kill you if you don't do X, Y and Z. No matter what a person believes there is something awe inspiring about a sunset or a mountain range. Hope you enjoy the book. - V Sky
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  Girls, Would You Say "No" If.....

  by rocketman in

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  2. friends

  .....your boyfriend proposed to you while on vacation?.

  the reason i ask this is because a couple i know was away in the tropics, and he popped the question.

  and yet, since they've been back (over 8 months) they've been mum on all things wedding.

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  If I loved him, I wouldn't care where he proposed and I'm with Nosferatu, I wouldn't be on vacation with him unless it was serious. Don't know how I would feel about a public proposal, times I've been asked have been in private. Surprise is good, shock is not! I've heard of romantic, imaginative ways people have proposed. Means he's put some thought into it. - V Sky
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  MY CONSULTING TRIP TO BETHEL (starting over) PART 6

  by seven006 in

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  2. friends

  within a few weeks i leased a condo on the banks of the willamette river just out side the city of portland.

  as she got into her car she looked at me funny again, laughed and just shook her head.. .

  i told him that if i said i was sorry, i knew that is what they wanted to hear but it was not the truth.

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  Dave, loved the bit about the harlot, too funny. Write that book, you've got the talent. Can't wait for part 7. - V Sky